In both cases, the girls were murdered by an unknown assailant. If DNA was recovered from the scene, the killer does not have any felony convictions in Indiana (they collect DNA from all felons). "People said that there was a guy behind the tree in the photo of Abby in the woods. This is someone who feels comfortable in these woods. On April 19, 42-year-oldChadwell allegedly lured a 9-year-old neighborhood girl into his house at 714 Park Ave. in Lafayette, where prosecutors say he beat her, locked her in the basement andsexually assaulted her before police looking for the girl knocked on his door. I cannot believe that the suspect has yet to be identified. Their bodies bore "strange signatures" at the kill site across Deer Creek in woodland 2km out of town. Sad truth is Mr Logan has paid a price for violating his probation while a murderer walks free. [7], Police claimed that the other children instigated situations to get Ame in trouble. FOX 10's Nicole Garcia reports. May make regular stops for work nearby or have been in the area for a few days prior with time to scout out the surrounding area. Their bodies were found nearby a day later. I still have my suspicions that they could have been catfished on some level, though. After failing a polygraph test, investigators asked why Kline would delete his Snapchat and Instagram accounts used to talk to German. Families of murdered teen girls Abigail Williams and Liberty German speak out about ongoing investigation, Fears of link between 'Snapchat killer' and unsolved double murder of young cousins, 'We have a hole in our family': A year on from the 'Snapchat' murders. Prosecutors argued Robert Charles Cruz, a Tempe businessman, masterminded the plot in an attempt to take over William Redmond and Ron Lukezic's business, Graphic Dimensions. Trails: Libby & Abby and Lyric & Elizabeth all disappeared while on a trail in the afternoon. I hope they figure it out soon. May have become unusually interested in news reports about the case or otherwise involved himself in the case such as talking excessively about it, compulsively reading news articles, or helping with the search party. Shirley claims also that the family threw her out and she left without her children, relocating to Iola, Kansas. MCSO said they are still searching for a vehicle that was stolen by Hurley as he fled from authorities a 2016 gray Kia Optima with a California license plate 7TLd075. "Evil did not defeat Deputy Ruiz that day, and evil will not defeat us today," said Sheriff Penzone. They didn'tappear to speak with news reporters at the time, andarepresentative for the family could not be reached for this story. You don't just kill innocent children and decide that you made a bad decision, and stop doing it. I thought that he knew more than he was letting on and while he might not be the killer, he knew who was and that person had access to his property. I, too, am leaning towards it being a crime of opportunity. Sheriff Penzone said during a news conference on Oct. 11 that the incident began during the early-morning hours of Oct. 9 when deputies responded to reports of a suspicious person. The girls may have been sexually-assaulted and/or murdered in a nearby structure such as a barn or out-building before being deposited where they were found. Killer is somewhat familiar with the local area. The announcement of Richard Allen's arrest stirred up a lot of emotions . TERRAFULLSIGHT 1.61K subscribers Subscribe 1.6K views 1 year ago #DURecorder #DURecorder This is my video recorded with DU Recorder. He's too well dressed. DELPHI Three years ago, two young girls went for a walk. Our community offers an alternative to subs that don't allow videos or podcast links as post submissions to kick off discussion. I know there is a recording and I know there is a decent picture, but this is America where traveling is really easy to do. He robbed them of this life.". At separate instances, Joyce Lukezic and Cruz's lawyers blamed Ron Lukezic for the killings, but he was never charged in the case, according to The Republic. It has also been mentioned that Daniel Nations girlfriend's first name starts with "K", (although I cant conceivably understand why the alleged killer would brand the victim with a reference to their own girlfriend. Then again I cant understand who could look at those two girls and want to hurt them in such a brutal way.). One investigator into the as-yet unsolved murders, has revealed the girls' killer left several "strange signatures" at the kill site. [9] A few days after the arrests, David Deal asked various friends and family for money to bail his mother, Judith Deal and his sister, Cynthia Stoltzmann out of jail.[5]. "It was very hard to get through the grass and the terrain to get back. May have endured a trauma around age 13, etc. The DTH podcast theorises that one person with considerable knowledge of the area committed the crime and had been planning it for some time. May have a history of petty arrests and convictions such as for possession of paraphernalia or shoplifting. Hurley was found hours later after being involved in a shootout with a homeowner in Tonopah when he was struck by a bullet. Also living there were Cynthia Stoltzmann's daughter, Sammantha, and her son-in-law, John Allen, both 23, and twelve or more children. No cause of death has been released by authorities. ", Glendale Police offered its condolences, saying, "We stand beside (MCSO) as they grieve the loss of their deputy. LE later claimed the boots were not connected to the murders, which may just be semantics. Uh, yeah, so not your suspect. La Paz County Sgt. [4], David Deal, Ame's possible father, was reported living in the back of the family rental home in a tent with his two other children. "It is maybe ten feet [3m] across. One of them also carried a briefcase,the AP reported. Is comfortable in the woods and in rural areas. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Shirley and David were living together until Shirley and her children went to stay with her mother in Donora, Pennsylvania. The couple and their mother were eventually ordered to a bedroom and forced to lay face down on abed next to each other. DTH speculates the man rehearsed his plan, walked the route and was ready to act whenever suitable victims appeared. Is familiar with the local area even though he has not planted long-term roots there. It's the only plausible explanation for the search party not finding them earlier. He drove by and saw them getting dropped off, Was on a adjacent property and spotted them, Access to some sort of trail cam? In Chadwell'sMay 21 filing for a change of venue, his attorneys wrote, "Chadwell is unable to receive a fair trial in Tippecanoe County, Indiana, as it has been reported that he is being investigated for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. All were heading off to play or hang out together when they went missing Lyric & Elizabeth were riding bikes, Libby & Abby were walking on wooded trails. The accusations of luring a child to a private location to commit a brutal crime begged the question of whether Carroll County officials were investigating . You just dont stumble across this type of landmark. Thank you .Ron Logan is being crucified at many sleuths web sites.I am not related to him and live 700 miles from Delphi. So if you go through the aforementioned points, it makes sense to me that this is someone who had access to the area, had been planning to do something of this nature for some time and then finally got their opportunity. View Source Suggest Edits Memorial Photos Flowers Memorials Region North America USA Indiana Carroll County Pittsburg There is a new push for information four years after police found teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams dead, in Delphi, Indiana. Deputies were unable to locate the suspect, identified as Clinton Robert Hurley. and our "He was just a nice guy.". Then again, he was also convinced that there was a pic of BG in that pic of Abby on the bridge. Delphi is a smaller community, so I'd be really surprised if the man was a local and nobody has recognized him at this point. Now that so much time has passed I don't know what to believe anymore. Also, during the interview with investigators, WISH-TV reported, Kline said he used the account to obtain photos and videos of a sexual nature featuring underage girls. "Nobody actually said it [but] he must not be to walk on a bridge like that or he walked that bridge many times.". More than 24,000 tips have come in to investigators since the girls disappeared. He gets his gun and murder kit (access to a car or property for these items), Follows and hunts them down towards the end of the bridge. The space between the gaps is not enough for your foot to slide through, unless you turn it sideways. What are your thoughts on weather or not they have DNA evidence from the crime scene or not? The grandmother of Libby German said the man arrested and accused of killing her granddaughter also was the man who printed off pictures for Libby's funeral. May also be familiar with southeastern Tennessee, specifically the Bledsoe County area. It's unclear when he met and married Marilyn Redmond, but the couple shared their three children and his two stepchildren, according to the obituary. Ive seen a reference to Libby having a letter "K" carved onto her chest. After William Redmond's death, Ron Lukezic became the sole owner of theirbusiness, Graphic Dimensions. "At the same time, it's an average of 10 minutes that someone new is added to the same list so it certainly isn't an uphill battle to offer hope to the 16,000 people right now, who are on the waiting list.". In that same downtown, flyers with another picture hangs on them, the police sketch of the man investigators say is the killer. I'll be checking back.. I also have never really seen this type of descrection from law enforcement (as in not releasing information pertaining to their cause of death, time of death, what evidence they have, if DNA was present, etc..) Although I do understand they are trying to protect the integrity of the case which is a good thing, it just has left me with so many questions. I think the killer has absolutely nothing to do with RL and with Delphi. He is far bigger than BG. Authorities have not released a cause of death. What I find odd is that LE don't seem to be very urgent to solve this case. By 5pm, the girls' families were out searching for them and by 6pm most the town, which has a population of about 3000, had joined police, but the girls were not found. To be honest, I am disappointed that LE has not found this guy yet. Everywhere you look in Delphi, there are reminders of Abby and Libby. The girls' pictures hang on flyers in storefronts around the town's square. Chadwellgave officers permission to search his house, and they found the girl naked and badly beaten, according to prosecutors. He was granted a retrial two years later, which ended with a hung jury. Allen, a 50-year-old Delphi man, was arrested last month. | The Theorem Factory. [8] When asked why Ame was treated so badly, it was said, "She was mentally a little slow, but that's it. This is one opinion I have not waivered from. At first I was leaning towards maybe someone RL knew but I'm shying away from that. His family made a selfless act to donate his organs, so many others can live on and represent his legacy.". Carried a deer kit fanny-pack, which may have contained weapons or tools to torture or kill the girls, Has a hunting background or hunts for sport. The murdered girls, who attended Delphi Community Middle School where they played saxophone and volleyball together, had visited the bridge before the day they died. "Somedays you just have to do that.". McCall and Bracy have since died in prison. She then heardtwo shots oneinto the back of her husband's head and the other into her mom. However, the cops have found nothing. [1], The family had often moved and had lived in Pennsylvania, Utah, Texas and Tucson, Arizona, among other places. Their hands were bound with adhesive tape and their mouthsstuffed with socks from a nearby dresser. A video taken by a local grandfather of the walk along the Monon High Bridge, recorded four months before the murders, shows just how precarious it is to walk on the structure. According to Shirley, she was seeing another man during the time she conceived, therefore it is not known for sure if David Deal is the father of Ame. Deputy Ruiz was laid to rest at Holy Cross Catholic Cemetery in Avondale, following a funeral procession, Along the route, residents who did not otherwise know Deputy Ruiz lined up to pay their respects. He said someone knows who the killer is but was keeping quiet because of "extreme fear". They walked through the wood and across the creek until they reached the spot where they were found and likely murdered there. Several days after the murders, and around the time of the Indiana Packers plant raid, LE released these photos of boots seized as evidence. [1], Both Sammantha and John Allen (born June 14 and July 19, 1988, respectively) were arrested for murder on July 27, 2011. AVONDALE, Ariz. - A Maricopa County Sheriff's deputy was laid to rest in October 2021, after he suffered a deadly attack while taking a suspect with felony warrants into custody. He had been released from the Dept. Kline, WISH-TV reported, is due in court on April 14 after he was charged in August of 2020 with 30 felonies regarding possession of child porn and child exploitation. Abby Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, recorded their murderer's chilling command to go "down the hill". Send police your tips on this case by calling (844) 459-5786 or emailing your tip to abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. If you have any information on the Delphi murders, contact law enforcement at 1-800-225-5324 or Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. The girls throats were injured in the course of their deaths, either through strangulation or by being cut with a knife. Hates women, perceives self as alternately a perpetual victim and a powerful aggressor. The suspect who reportedly attacked and killed a Maricopa County Sheriff's deputy in October 2021 may face the death penalty, the county attorney's office said months later. Six months later, though, a painful anniversary has arrived with still no answers. The Ajo Fire Department said, "Our thoughts and prayers go out to Deputy Ruizs family, friends and colleagues. In the state's response, prosecutors wrote, "Although attempts have been made to connect the defendant to the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German, alongside negative comments by defendant's family members and news articles referencing his criminal history, none of these alone or in combination with one another are dispositive in suggesting that there is a general atmosphere of prejudice in Tippecanoe County so as to not impanel a fair and impartial jury through voir dire. All those little things and the dreaded school supply shopping. The girls were taken some place else. About seven months later, the Maricopa County Attorney's Office announced on May 4 that it intends to seek the death penalty. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. It seems hard to believe after this long and with his picture and audio record available, police still have not managed to find him. Is there any personal significance for him to the teens or middle of the month and does he have 3-day weekends? The girls were murdered while together which indicates either a proficient criminal or more than one offender. May have explained this as having gone hiking or hunting. This is why this killer is so cunning and so hard to find. Perhaps these exact work boots were not worn during the murders but they may closely resemble the footwear the killer was wearing. My 6 year old loves that channel. Photos of a suspect in the case were later released by authorities as well as a brief audio clip of him stating down the hill. Although authorities have never confirmed, it, most in the public eye assume the photos and audio came from Libbys phone when she discreetly videotaped him. The children were also persuaded to lie about why and how Ame ended up in the trunk to the police. "My heart's still breaking," said Anna Williams, Abby's mom, who prays it won't be much longer. History of rape, assault, and/or domestic abuse, Was a lone killer, did not have an accomplice. The bodies may have been posed in an odd or provocative manner, often indicative of serial killer behavior. Before Ame was squeezed into the trunk, she was forced to do jumping jacks and backbends and to run around in 103-degree heat for over an hour. We might find out more Monday as I believe that is the landowners court date. Media coverage from Lafayette toNew York and the United Kingdomis enough to justify a change of venue for accused attempted murder defendant James Brian Chadwell Jr.,according to his attorneys. Nothing less is acceptable.". Did Diane Schuler Have Auto Brewery Syndrome? Ahead of the party, Marilyn Redmond was in the kitchen cooking aham, roast beef and scalloped potatoes. The Monon High Bridge trail. At other times she was beaten with a paddle which they called the "Butt Buster"[3] and she was forced to eat hot sauce and dog feces. And if that is the case then I very much think it's someone familiar with that land. MCSO deputy in training, Alfredo Romero, who met Ruiz, said "I was able to actually ride with him for one of my days and you could kind of feel how great of a person he was and made a bit of impact in such a short time.". Parks at the cps bldg in the early morning and walks around. The Arizona Department of Corrections said on Twitter, "Our condolences and prayers go out to the family and friends of Deputy Juan M. Ruiz and all his (MSCO) colleagues. ", The Tucson Police Department remarked, "The Tucson Police Department is heartbroken to hear of Maricopa County Sheriff's Department Deputy Juan M. Ruiz's death. Maybe they already know who it is maybe they're following him and checking things out but they don't want to say anything yet they don't want to release anything either to the public. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Video / ABC News. None of the charges are in connection to the unsolved death of Williams and German. On May 10, prosecutors moved to amend its initial Count 6 from battery with serious bodily injury, a Level 5 felony, to battery on a person younger than 14 resulting in serious bodily injury a Level 3 felony. "Seeking the death penalty is the most serious decision entrusted to the County Attorney," said interim County Attorney Rachel Mitchell. [2], Ame, who was 4 feet, 2inches and 59 pounds, had to be squeezed into the trunk since its dimensions were only 3 feet by 1 foot 2 inches and a foot deep. Clinton Hurley, the suspect accused of killing Maricopa County deputy Juan Ruiz, has been released from the hospital and is now in Pinal County Jail. "The hill was still pretty steep and my shoes were sliding down in the mud. Hundreds lined the streets of Delphi on Sunday as Liberty 'Libby' German, 14, was taken to be buried. William Redmond, who went by "Pat" to those closest to him,was born in Huntington, West Virginia. Cause of death for Libby and Abby has not been publicly released but two photos, a sketch of a possible suspect, and a brief audio clip of his voice have been released. May have worked at the Indiana Packers meat-packing plant and other similar meat-processing plants (or jobs that are easier for convicted felons to obtain) in rural areas. This office will seek justice for Deputy Ruiz and his family.". And once you are there you can only go forward to the point where the bridge ends and private property begins. Witnessesidentified the hired gunmen as McCall, William Bracy and Murray Hooper, both of Chicago. "Another brother falls but we're all here to show support and pick him up and hopefully everybody can see this," Rogers said. I check everyday for updates hoping I will read that they have identified this monster who committed this heinous act. "Somebody knows this person," said Patty. Flags at all state buildings will be lowered to half-staff on Oct.12 to honor Ruiz. Follow on Twitter: @RonWilkins2. Maybe they don't want to scare this guy off and have him leave town that's why they're keeping it hush-hush. When the family lived in Wisconsin, the local child protective services were called because of the "disgusting conditions" of their residence. We were all so proud to see him achieve his dream," said Ruiz's brother, Francisco Ruiz. Newsweek reached out to the Indiana State Police for comment but did not hear back in time for publication. The fact that they are holding the landowner seemed promising to me when first reported. "We don't need them anymore," Marilyn Redmond recalled one of the men saying. The papers showed that Kline had communicated with German using the account. "During a time when men and women in law enforcement face scrutiny, sometimes demonization, or expected to be perfect and underappreciated but a scumbag piece of (expletive) out of the Department of Corrections can put him on life support when he comes to work every day in uniform to keep this community safe," Penzone said on a news conference on Oct. 9. "Please, please, come forward and let us know what you know," Carter said. They seemed to have done a good job executing their evil act. [7] Sammantha and John Allen's bail bonds were both set at $1 million. They can't. Prior to his burial, hundreds of people, including members of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office and other local law enforcement agencies, packed into St. Thomas Aquinas Church in Avondale for a service. DNA matching one of the searchers, Ivan Brumbaugh, was located on the girls but he admits to touching the bodies when he found the girls. In . It's been a tragic week for law enforcement in our state. 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