Remember the social media photo Abby and Libby posted the night before the murders? "I guess that's kind of the new mission.". Investigators believe the killer of two teen girls is hiding in plain sight in the small community of Delphi, Indiana and that someone who knows the killer may be "afraid" to come forward. Do you have their name? If Mr. X did that, we think that was a pretty lousy thing to do to his stepson. Rebecca Rosenberg is a veteran journalist and book author with a focus on crime and criminal justice. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. He said, 'no I did not.' "So, it seems like there's a lot more to do now, basically figuring out who this guy is and how he's linked in with everything. [7]. However, his middle name is different. And for that, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. So we have four sources for the dolls story, two from LE and two from search party members. building torn down. Did she see him before the crime or after the crime? I have been sitting on this information for 5 1/2 weeks because I was afraid that releasing this information might make the younger suspect run, but I have decided now is the right time to release it. Updated: Nov 29, 2022 / 06:57 PM EST. The stepson is a 21 year old man who just graduated from high school and lives with Mr. X and his wife, Mrs. X. Privacy Policy. lying in the grass between a group of trees deep in the woods, The bodies were found on private property, about. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. The initial contactspecifically happened right at the end of the bridge, on the South East end, where it stops being a bridge and becomes a trail again. We dont know how hes acting in relation to all of this stuff. [20]. First of all, it bears no good resemblance to Mr. X, the main suspect in the crime. Richard Allen, a 50-year-old Delphi man, was arrested last month. "I can't tell you eye color, but I can say they're not blue!" They were murdered in a very short window of time between 2:07 pm (when Libby posted a picture of Abby to Snapchat) and 3 pm (when other witnesses were in the area but heard no sounds). The renderings are a "ballpark estimation of what the person looks like.". That's beyond careless. VITAL WITNESS. Therefore, after Mrs. X married Mr. X, they must have gone to court and had his name legally changed to Mr. Xs last name. However, I just heard via DDcups, a man from Australia, and an excellent poster on the Reddit Delphi subs, that he contacted someone who knew a Delphi police officer, and this person told him his police friend had stated that dolls were scattered around the crime scene. It turns out that Mr. X has a stepson that looks remarkably like the Young BG sketch. Enjoying your content very much. After searching, All rights reserved. The Monon High Bridge has 6 platforms jutting o. ut in an alternating pattern of left and right periodically across the bridge. It could be literally anything.". It is also possible that this journalist meant only to imply that any video of a killer approaching would haunt investigators. On February 22, 2017, Indiana State Police release audio taken from Libbys phone, presumably taken from the video she was taking. Thanks, SMK! How do I log in? Today, a new sketch of the suspect, appearing to be in his mid-twenties to mid-thirties. The Delphi Murder Tip Line was routed to the FBI's Major Case Contract Center in Washington, D.C because of the sheer number of calls they were receiving. Further, he knows the subject inside out. Delphi Murders: ISP says new audio, video and sketch shows Libby & Abby's killer. Carroll County Historical Museum Photo Archives. Tietoja laitteestasi ja Internet-yhteydest (esimerkiksi IP-osoitteesi), Selaaminen ja hakutoiminnot Yahoon verkkosivustojen ja -sovellusten kytn aikana. This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, t, activate that video system on her cellphone. The new sketch released during a press conference on April 22 2019. During that time, the pair has been responsible for unearthing a number of crucial pieces of information in the case. They were lying in the grass between a group of trees deep in the woods. We dont know what his original first name was, but his original last name was not the same as Mr. Xs. Further complicating this matter is the existence of two sketches of two entirely different people. Why not join the 240+ members who have already signed up for the best Delphi sleuthing team of all? -, Press J to jump to the feed. Law enforcement has said that the disposal sight was 0.5 miles from the end of the bridge and across the Deer Creek. The quality of the DNA collected is unknown. While Flores was long considered the sole suspect in the case, authorities said Lambert was able to uncover witnesses that investigators had never spoken to before, helping them to garner some vital leads. Or the other idea I have aside from someone else walking the park that day is, the property owner. Hes just a situational molester and theyre no more attracted to kids than anyone else. Click the tweet to view the imagesat a larger size. Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. Delphi murders suspect Richard Matthew Allen, who was arrested last week for the 2017 double slaying of teens Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams, lived and worked in the community . . "The new material included about one second of video of the man walking behind the girls, his hat pulled down low, in the hopes that someone watching might recognize a quirk in his gait or a familiar mannerism, Superintendent Douglas G. Carter of the State Police said." Interview?) The sketch released on Monday was drawn by Bryant on Feb. 17, 2017, a few days after the victims' bodies were found. ", A CVS spokesperson released a statement to Fox News Digital saying the company is "devastated by these murders" and "shocked and saddened to learn that one our store employees was arrested as a suspect in these crimes.". So this rumor originally came from the police! What do we know from LE reports/statements to public or to the. News sources have also never directly referenced witness sightings of the offender. This comment is a couple days late but I'd like to remind everyone that shaming witnesses for not coming forward soon enough, scare off witnesses who "waited too long" to come forward in the first place. We agree with Leaker that Young BGs drawing is based on the photo of the 19 year old Catfish Boy that was used to lure Libby from Snapchat. Just forget about him. During their own two-year investigation into the case, the couple has, in addition to Kline, found that police also once served a search warrant at the home of another local man, Ron Logan, in connection with the case. The man said he had not but that he had seen a couple on the bridge. Delphi murders investigation timeline: Review the case through 5 years of reporting. There may well have been a giant stuffed bear at the scene that day. Great post. Please say yes. Their bloodied bodies were found in a wooded area less than half a mile from the bridge. Now, in an interview with The U.S. Sun, ine and Kevin admitted that even they were "caught off guard" by the arrest of Richard Allen last week, who has now been charged with both of the girls' murders. New York Times article You Are Hiding in Plain Sight, 14. But this also why the Old BG sketch is no good. ", "That's what we're curious about," said ine. There has been no official indication of if this description is still relevant to the investigation as it was associated with the oldsketch. Submissions should outline a mystery and provide a link to a more detailed review of the case such as a Wiki article or news report. "I think the media is can be a very good partner in cases like this to keep things moving along," where investigations may have otherwise stalled," she added. [11] It is possible to get a rough estimate of where the bodies were based off of placement of crime scene tape in the woods. We consider some stuff confirmed as in reports from police, official documents, and search party members. I constantly see your name pop up there. I'm not sure, the article says the "witness" saw the man WALKING near Delphi the day after the murders.. And nobody else saw him? Delphi, Indiana, police have been notoriously tight-lipped about the killings of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams since the first news conference after the girls were found dead in February 2017. "Thats what I guess was the biggest shock.". They just do it for the Hell of it. Just a question. Whether this is reference to a vehicle parked near the CPS building or a generic request for witnesses is unknown. I can give you instructions here if you like. It was Child Protective services. The sketch released on April 22ndis representative of the face of the person captured in the video on Liberty Germans cell phone as he was walking on the high bridge. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. My sleuth now thinks that the dolls came from the graveyard. I sure hope so. We now know who the FBI was looking into at first as a potential . We got these LE sources from local sleuth JM. All that is known publicly is the initial sight of the encounter (the south east end of the bridge) is not the same location as the body disposal sight. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. Attorneys with the prosecutors and defense met virtually Friday for the suspect in the Delphi killings. "New York Times article You Are Hiding in Plain Sight, 15. Delphi Bridge murder victims Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were found to have lost a large amount of blood when discovered dead close to an Indiana hiking trail in February 2017. Though most have no idea of who Mr X is, it looks like you just said it in the replies. . 923. ba. Police revealed they believe their suspect may be hiding in plain sight. So I yelled down and told them that. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. JBC is innocent of this crime. And maybe he's actually under witness protection from the killer without tipping him off and also keeping him away from the angry mob. Are these guys even humans? DELPHI MURDERS: WHAT TO KNOW ABOUT THE 2017 KILLINGS OF LIBBY GERMAN AND ABBY WILLIAMS. Tony Slocum said: On February 13, 2017 Libby took a video (with audio) that captured a man on the Monon High Bridge approaching them. Knowledge of the witness sightings is mainly given by the family of the deceased and through social media rumors. Pretrial hearings for Allen are slated to begin on January 13 at 9am. J. Kyle Keener, aphotographer working for the newspaper Pharos Tribune took some of the highest quality photos of the investigation during February 14, 2017. Only took the trail that lead to the bridge. Surprisingly, after all this speculation about if the attack the was recorded, when Sheriff Tobe Leazenby was asked point blank the attack was recorded in a video interview, he answered that it was not. Investigators searched Allen's home two weeks ago, with a focus on the property's fire pit, FOX 59 reported. I think much of it might be true. To me they are like magicians pulling rabbits out of hats. are what led volunteers to the area the bodies were found. I thought Hughes said the person he heard about had never been mentioned as a POI? Also, a slow cut even with a big knife would not have drenched BG in blood. How many saw Bridge Guy an. I wonder if the witness tossed the idea around of "what if I incriminate an innocent person"? Photo from the perspective of the railroad bridge, view from the west facing east. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. And spent a significant amount of time looking for the man in this sketch, and as you said Jim, that man it turned out recently was arrested and was a sex offender. Hi Robert have donated to become a member of the Delphi group! There were definitely dolls at the site that day. Authorities announced Monday the arrest of Richard Allen, center, for the murders of Libby German, left, and her best friend, Abby Williams, in Feb. 2017. Jos haluat listietoa ja haluat hallita valintojasi, napsauta Hallitse asetuksia. Let me put it this way, and I do respect your work Robert even if we have different POI. released during a press conference on April 22 2019. We do have Crop Protection Services here in town (recently changed name to NutriAg Solutions, and funny enough they were going to move operations over to the cps building when it was vacant and got into a lease with the town but there were to many problems with the building and it didnt pass code, they never moved in and moved into a building over on Prince William rd instead. Hello. So we have more evidence, albeit the third-hand source we have never talked to. The Monon High Bridge being rebuilt in 1915. . Anyone with information about this case is encouraged to send tips to this email address: Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, the podcast responded through Facebook saying "That is what we have heard from our sources. State police officials have released a new short clip of the video recorded on Libby German's . All of the material is referenced in terms of where it come from and how good of a source it is. "The witness is the main focus. On 12/8/22, the defense asked for its financial requests to be sealed so their defense strategy would not be revealed. Its unclear if he has yet retained an attorney. And they say the phone is now deadI saw the texts where they got delivered, but they never got read, [7]. On July 17, 2011 the police released a composite sketch of their suspect in the Delphi murders. No, no CP was found at JBCs place. 1 of 2. Source: April 22 2019 Press Conference, Timestamp5:48, [Note: originally it was said to be on February 14 2017, but it was later corrected by law enforcement to February 13th.]. He was never charged with any wrongdoing and later died in 2020 from Covid-19. Gull set aside June 15 and June 16, if needed for a bail hearing for Allen. Mike Patty reveals that he went back to the house to retrieve "phone information" and brought it to the police so they could start "pinging" Libby's phones. Knowing that the sketches are of two different people brings up the question, why did the investigation switch focus from their first suspect to another? Two female members of the search party contacted team members separately with revelations about the crime. The High Bridge, over Deer Creek, is the second highest in the state at 63 feet and it is 853 feet long. None of the witnesses reported seeing that individual with anyone else in the information released so far. I saw videos of the bridge and also videos of the trails, if witnesses are seeing other witnesses or even saw BG then isnt it strange that they didnt see Libby or Abby? [8] At the time of the homicides, the bridge was still owned by CSX but was unofficially used by the community as a public trail. And so the other sketch was somebody saw, in the area, and was suspicious about. The second woman largely corroborated much if not all of the first womans report. The leak is from a very high-ranking person on that team. A newspaper photographer, mentioned earlier in Evidence V, named J. Kyle Keener added a description to his facebook photo album in which he describes what he could see in the creek on February 14, 2017. Since the homicides, Indiana Landmarks has taken ownership of the land and after planned restoration has completed it will officially be added to the Delphi Historic Trails. Im really interested in reading your Delphi stuff. But is just recently coming forward with the information, which is how the released sketch came to be. He stood there for a little bit, he looked around and didnt see anybody or anything so he thinks he started walking towards the High Bridge, he was just about to where it forks and he ran into an older gentleman that was coming from the High Bridge and he asks him Did you see a couple of girls there? and he said No, but there's a couple down underneath." - Becky Patty, Timestamp 22:47,Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/help-isp-identify-this-man-who-was-on-the-walking-trails-monday-near-delphi. And as you will see below, we actually have five confirmations of the dolls story, three from LE and two from searchers. Good news about your new team members. "I mean, is it a matter of police saying, 'hey, we're checking to make sure there are no other perpetrators and we're just going to tie up loose ends?'. 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