Mag. bullet wins the wind deflection category. If barrel quality is equally consistent, run-of-the-mill accuracy should exceed that of most rifles chambered for older 7mm cartridges. A major part of that depends on rifling twist. Just have the barrel throated so you can load those big pills way out there, to make room for more powder. I'm currently hunting with a 7rm shooting 168 Berger vlds at 3000 fps. Just 5 inches of drop at 400 yards and 6.8 inches of wind deflection. I don't feel the need to give up barrel life (it may be a hunting rifle but I still practice with it) for a marginal increase in speed, as well as more powder and more expensive brass. Barrel life is always a concern with maximum velocity, so-called overbore cartridges. Mag. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. The additional reach is tempting, but Id pay the price with a 26-inch, fairly heavy barrel. Of course, this was an overreaction, but at the time millions were convinced the new 7mm was the do-all-end-all of deer/elk/moose and even bear hunting cartridges. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. This is probably too high for real world hunting, but well use it as a standard here for cartridge-to-cartridge comparison consistency.). For perspective, this is 75 fps faster than most 175-gr. ADG 300 Norma Magnum Brass. Bullet made it in about 3" an blew a big hole in it. The 280AI is a great cartridge, as is the plain old 280 Remington. RL-19, H4350, and IMR 4350 are all good choices. Categories The 7 PRC should be built on 1:8 or 1:7.5 twist barrels to stabilize all these. And the accuracy with both powders was great as well. And that means more powder. Again, both seen like great options but I want this to be a hunting rig, as I've got a rifle for shooting steel. Winchester claims a muzzle velocity (MV) of 3,225 fps with a 140 grain bullet for their 7mm WSM cartridge; the claimed muzzle energy (ME) is 3,233 ft. lbs. The best part is that the recoil is super easy compared to a 300. I wish there was more 7SAUM options, I feel there's a gap in the market. They sharpened the shoulder angle. These bullets are super tempting to run at 3200+. Will be running as a long action so no worries about magazine issues. Few, if any, cartridges shoot as flat and hit as hard at distance as the 7mm Weatherby. The 7mm Weatherby has the same recoil as a .300 Winchester Magnum, and many shooters can't come to grips with it. Qty: Add to cart. The store will not work correctly in the case when cookies are disabled. My vote would be for the 7 saum. This will be a custom built hunting rifle(deer and elk) and will need to be carried long distances. It went on to prove itself as a grand all-round big game cartridge, becoming the most popular, most recognized 7mm magnum around the world. By 1,000 yards the PRC has nearly a 2-foot drop advantage and 14-inch windage advantage. 28 Nosler offers excellent performance but brass is spendy and availability is hit or miss . You must log in or register to reply here. While the 7 Rem Mag has been built on everything from 1:8 twist to 1:10, most spin 1:9. I'm worried bout the need of a 26" barrel for the Nosler, and hoping to get away with a 24" since I'm trying to run an Ultra 7 with it. Minuteman. Handloaders can take advantage of all these, but most commercial ammunition features 120-grain to 178-grain bullets. So how do you choose among these three? Sounds like from above that ADG is making 7 MAX brass, which is what Rich told me last year would be happening. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. Mag. Was tempted to do a 270 WSM with 170 EOLs. Three quid k shots can overheat a thin barrel and turn a 1 MOA rifle into a 2 MOA. Id suggest a similar plan. Alabusa Learning. To help you understand the flow of energy, check out the chart-. Clearly the 28 Nosler is the flat trajectory King here, but at the expense of more recoil, more powder, and a fairly large, standard-length action to fit the .534 rim/head circumference. Furthest down, around the primer pocket, the brass should be firm. However I am still using H4831, and I bet with VV N 570 or RL26 I could pass those speeds easily. Never saw the need for the added horse power of the 7 STW so I sold it and stayed with the 7 mm Rem Mag. If you're only going to be shooting 160's, I think the regular 7 Rem Mag would definitely be a more economical choice. Mag. I used to shoot 154gr hornady interbonds at 3750 and latest was not to push over 3400. Mag. First, the 7mm Rem Mag and 28 Nosler use larger diameter bullets than the 6.8 Western. Mag. My Saum is on a med length action and was a full tilt everything I wanted build. The 404 Jeffery sired the majority of Nosler's cartridge line, namely the 30 Nosler, 26 Nosler, and 33 Nosler as well as other cartridges like the 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Magnum (SAUM). I'm going 7-300prc because it'll out pace a 7mag by 100-150fps with all bullet weights at much more manage pressures. .672., MV 2,900 fps. The lighter, shorter 7mm bullets are preferred in these short case magnums. Additionally you can tune your load so accuracy difference go out the window. Jan 1, 2018 2,001 4,006 51 Muscle Shoals, Alabama. Of course, you can exactly match 7mm ballistics with a .308 bullet if BC and MV are identical. Considering the production by Hornady of 6.5 GAP 4S cases, the next logical step appeared to be ammunition coming off the line in Grand Island, Nebraska. Mine is a 26" 1-9 twist non saami 280 ackley. Those are some impressive numbers. $120.95. If you want a shorter barrel, look into the 7 SAUM, 7 RM and even the 7-08 , they'll all get it done nicely. Im in the market to start a new build. 7mm Rem. Diver160651 Who cares. and a high B.C. The 28 Nosler uses .284 diameter bullets while the 300 Win Mag uses larger .308 bullets. Choices have changed since I made the decision to go with a 7 WSM 10-15 years ago. Its a criterion 26 barrel. Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. Im going to run the 7 Saum Im thinking. 22 Nosler. for their 7mm SAUM with a 140 grain bullet. Thats the 7mm magnum advantage. I'm pushing the 175 eldx at 3005 fps, with excellent case life (10+ reloads). A bigger concern might be barrel heating and subsequent wandering. Thin barrels tend to distort slightly with heat, opening up groups. Were I seeking the absolute top-end, extreme-range performance and willing to carry a 28 inches of barrel, Id look harder at the RUM. Great performance, easy to neck a case down and a simple bushing change gets you great dies. factory 7mm Rem. #7mm #longrangeshooting #extremelongrange Definitely go 26" on the barrel. Now waiting on ADG to do another run of 7 SAUM brass. As the name suggests, this round is aimed squarely at accurate, long range performance. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. Ballistic twins. Buy Now. . Lets compare three cartridges that do that; the old 7mm Rem. The extra heat required to reach hyper speed eats away at barrel throats rather quickly. The 175/180 class Bullets sneaking along (1/4 MOA) at 2950-ish give or take, certainly not to par with the newer selections. Less well known in the U.S. (but more ballistically advanced) was the 7mm Weatherby Magnum from the early 1940s. You must log in or register to reply here. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. We have killed over a half dozen deer over 850 yards with the 195 berger so i know it performs well on game (never lost a deer with the 195 even with one having poor shot placement). $81.95. That was the 7x57mm re-branded for the non-metric British Rigby rifle. Just cant decide what billets and powder to run. Copyright Ron Spomer Outdoors document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) It may not display this or other websites correctly. LRHTB. Ron Spomer ADG 7mm Rem Mag Brass. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the .28 Nosler. (Aim for center and bullet will not rise more than 5 inches nor fall more than 5 inches within the MPBR. for my brand of hunting. They straightened the sidewalls. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Another indicates 74-grains of Hodgdon 870 will churn up 2,954 fps. It's no surprise then that the 7mm Weatherby held the title "World's Fastest 7mm" until the 28 Nosler appeared. If you reload ,other than initial brass price, the cost is nearly identical. According to SAAMI specs, instrumental velocity of the 7mm PRC is 2,950 fps when driving a 180-grain bullet. I have a 7 LRM in a DTA, I've been pretty happy with it. And most of the recent data for the rum is also on the weak side. Has 260 rounds on it so its fully sped up. ADG 7 SAUM Brass. I did shoot a black bear years ago with a 140gr Sierra, ugly. Newer calibers tend to fade quickly these days. But if your wanting the long action anyway, I'd go with the 280ai. I love my 7 SAUM and would do it again. Mag. It only makes sense, case with 8gr less capacity out running the bigger case, it's because of pressure, and lots of it. Mag. 12 Gauge 1". Heres what a trajectory table looks like for the 180-gr. Bullet size is another one of the other important differences between the 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag. Check out the 10 mph right-angle wind deflection at 400 yards: just 7.82 inches. One of the draws to the 7 SAUM is the availability of high-quality brass through companies like Norma and ADG. Both are great rounds. I'd opt for the 7RM. The 28N is very similar to the 7 STW. Since this rifle will be used sparingly maybe I can afford to go with something a little harder on the barrel. And it will likely penetrate farther because more of its mass rides in the long shank behind its nose. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Nonetheless, it's nice to have options Having so many options these days is a double edged sword. Running a 7mm like others velocities are really easily to get. The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but underrated standard velocity cartridges. The 180 Berger VLD was my choice for terminal performance. The LRM feeds perfectly, much better than the SAUM. You must log in or register to reply here. In 1962 the 7mm Rem. Actually just today finally found a Redding type s die seton stock. Been looking for a while. Trustpilot. I love 7mm, just wish it would modernize a bit. Why not back the 28 off and run h1000 or retumbo and cruise along at the same velocity? Arbeidstid: 08.00-16.00mandag til fredagVi vil svare deg innen 48-72 timer. Im going to run a tikka action/stock trigger with spring upgrade with a 22in carbon barrel and a light weight scope. I've mostly shot 180 Berger's and its been really accurate. Recreational and practical applications abound with these .22 caliber handguns. Or just step up to the 7 SAUM and run 180s if you want more weight. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. Ryan Pierce is a gunsmith, Piercison Rifles, and he is the first person I saw that was playing with the extra freebore. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUMa shoot-off to find the best, By 28 nosler is a great choice for the heavies mine is throated for the 195 eols but im gonna try the 190 atips soon. The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. #1 Postby Marty Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:38 am. If we're talking optimizing performance, a 26" barrel is not optimum for either cartridge - you should instead be looking at 30" - 32" barrels. include more options in rifles and ammo, more accessible and less expensive ammo, less recoil, a potentially shorter, handier, lighter rifle, and longer barrel life. More obscure were the 7mm Gibbs and the Norma-loaded 7x61mm Sharpe & Hart in the early 1950s. For Connaught we moved to 7mm SAUMs and in preparation of going to that FCWC I got . JavaScript is disabled. 7mm RemMag. You must log in or register to reply here. I'm not too familiar with the 7LRM, but I'm having a 28 Nosler built for hunting. Like I said, I'm biased for the 7RM. Moose by the dozens have fallen to the 7mm Rem. These are some impressive numbers. During processing the large, soft grains are broken down into smaller ones, which makes for a harder material. Fill this brass case with smokeless powder instead of water and, according to some handloading guides, 62.5 grains of Reloder 22 should shove a 175-grain bullet from a 24-inch barrel 2,870 fps. Reloder 33, 7mm RUM 3,150 fps from 26 bl. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. $120.95. This rings home with me. I like off the shelf ammo and its 7 mag, 28 Nosler, 7mm-08 and the 280. Hornady 7mm PRC overall length matches that of the 30-06 and 270 Win., so it fits standard length actions. Good luck in your search, hope youll be as happy as I am with my results. yea Im leaning more towards the 28 just cause I dont really want to fire form, I know its not the end of the world but just one more step. If you dont own a 7mm of any kind and want one strictly for hunting, you might as well get the PRC version. Creedmoor Sports $ 86.95 . Like you said though, it's pretty tough to go wrong. Just FYI before going 7-330NM, check out Long Range Hunting, there is a real long thread on there about the 28 Nosler with the 195 Bergers, just google it. The belt has never been an issue for me. Reactions: Zeroit. If you go with a hot 7mm, get one with a fairly heavy barrel contour. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data 120 Grain 140 Grain 150 Grain 160 Grain 168 Grain 175 Grain 185 Grain PRIVACY USE ORDER PROCESSING SERVICE & RETURNS Copyright 2023 NOSLER INC. Adding two inches of barrel to the 24 inches of our 7mm Rem. ADG 28 Nosler. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm SAUM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.825", maximum case length 2.035". You say it's long action. Engineers made three modifications that ensured popularity: they shortened the case to fit standard-length actions. 7 saum 7 rem mag 7 ultra mag 28 nosler The 284 and 280 appeal to me for lower cost (components and barrel life), but they are the slowest. Nothing to call home about, but its solid for any North American game to 7 or 800 yards based on about any standard metric. Recoil of a 9# Rem. Essentially, 7mm PRC rifles will be manufactured with match-grade chambers. As you might guess, there isnt much trajectory/performance difference between the RUM and the Nosler. Bonus benefits with the 7mm Rem. Just FYI before going 7-330NM, check out Long Range Hunting, there is a real long thread on there about the 28 Nosler with the 195 Bergers, just google it. rick smith. That's how gun control works.". Full Member. HOWEVER, I don't follow the logic of having to use a 26" barrel if you go the Nosler route. Mag. This compromise should account for the slower muzzle velocities many rifles produce with factory loads and safe handloads. Qty: Add to cart . The 7mm Remington Mag generates significant recoil of 22.15 ft-lbs at 13.32 fps. runs at 2940 fps and the .280 AI runs at 2850 fps). Ban sober drivers from driving. This friction-free bullet jump allows it to break inertia more easily. Unless you are shooting the 180's at long range, the 7 Rem is enough gun. Instead, the Hornady-developed RCM case was used to produce the 6.5 PRC. John Whiddons dies are the nicest Ive ever used. 7mm brass is simple to find and the caliber is an absolute hammer on deer/elk. I was tired of lugging the heavy, long, and heavy recoiling 30s around, but wanted more punch than my lighter 6.5CM. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. ABLR in the 28 Nosler. But if you want to win long range target competitions, the 7 PRC is your best bet. I was looking at a 7-300 win, 7-300NM, and a few others. The 28 isn't blowing the doors of the MAX. I just did a 7mm build too. If the muzzle energy is higher, it will leave the bullet with higher energy. I have one on a 26" proof barrel. I have a 28 nosler, and love it, but I wanted the extra 200 FPS from hand . Another vote for 280ai if building a light weight hunt rig all the horsepower needed close to 7rm but standard action with room for an extra round. In the past, running 284 Win (reaching back to Raton, 2013), I would have said that (for me at least) a rechamber would be in order for a straight 284 around the 2000 round mark. Im sure Remington engineers started with the .300 H&H case, but it was itself a modification of the .375, so same difference. Im shooting a 7 stw 1 in 8 twist ( ballistic twin to 28 nosler ) 190's at 3005 fps, and the 195's at 2985 fps both with under .5 moa accuracy. The load is easy on brass and accuracy is excellent, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box. And heres a top load for the 175-gr. This precision does not mean the 7mm PRC is a long range target round only. 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If your just hunting without extended range sessions I'g use this over the 7rem mag. It will never be as popular as a 6.5PRC or 28nosler, but it has a purpose. It will shoot as fast as a 7mm SAUM and brass is easy to find. Absolutely nothing special or difficult about reloading belted cases. No more than 7-pounds finished and field ready. Just to add another fly in the ointment, but another 7mm to consider, is the 7mm Blaser Mag. Guys report great brass life with belted cases. Like all 7mms, they can fire bullets as light as 100-grains and as heavy as 180-grains. Copyright 2004, 2013 by Chuck Hawks. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. 7mm Rem. A .208 AI would be about the same as the .284 Win loaded right. 28 Nosler brass can be a pain to find, same goes for the ammo. Before this barrel I had a 7 SAUM and I wasn't happy with how it fed from the DTA magazines. Dec 7, 2019 #14 ; 7 mag easy. Either is good. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. needing 1.3 mils for a 10 mph full value wind. I would not be overly concerned with it only being for hunting. Brass 1 - 12 of 73 Products Sort By Position 220 Swift Premium Brass (50ct) $108.95 6.5mm PRC Bulk Unprepped Brass (100ct) Out of stock $135.49 6.5mm PRC Premium Brass (50ct) Out of stock $118.95 27 Nosler Premium Brass (25ct) I wouldn't do either in a 24" , I would definitely go 26" at a minimum. If you compare Nosler .280 AI brass vs. Nosler 7SAUM brass, you get twice the cases (50) with the .280 AI for only $10 more than what it costs for 25 cases of 7mm SAUM. For really light and a short action if you reload 7 saum. ADG 338 Remington Ultra Mag Brass. I would expect the 300 PRC to mirror the performance. Your results may vary. The factory offerings for ammo hold no weight with me, but that probably plays a role in many people's decisions. Retumbo. More significant are the chamber dimensions, which are tighter than those of most traditional, 20th century hunting cartridges. Also note that some guys are reporting pressure issues at speeds other are reporting work with the 28. The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. Hornadys 7mm PRC with its high B.C. Som en stor omfattende nettbutikk er hjemsol forpliktet til hjelpe deg med skape et stt liv med vre utskte produkter. Id be set for all North American game plus African plains game right up to 1,800-pound eland. Also, is it worth getting a new rifle in the 280AI when I already have a 270 Win? The completed case holds 90 grains of water with our 175-grain boattail spire point bullet seated. The 28 Nosler is also loaded to a slightly higher pressure than the 300 Win Mag (65,000psi vs 64,000psi). 7mm SAUM vs 7mm Rem Mag | Full Comparison 24,889 views Sep 12, 2020 306 Dislike Share Save GunFather Precision 6.7K subscribers To answer a question I regularly get asked here is a full. Some of these new cartridges are appealing, I dont think Ill change however. Creedmoor Sports $ 119.95 . It is simply the 7mm SAUM case necked down. How does the 280 AI do with 180 grain bullets compared to the 7mm SAUM? Articles may contain affiliate links which enable us to share in the revenue of any purchases made. In shorter barrels, performance declines dramatically. Medium slow burning rifle powders are most appropriate for both of these cartridges. Thanks. Mag. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Now lets check out the 7mm RUM. My conclusion: if you already own any 7mm magnum for hunting, (7mm WSM, 7mm SAUM, 7mm RM, 7mm LRM, 7mm STW, 7mm Wby. I have a 6.5 saum that is my go to long range coues rifle and it is my favorite rifle but not my first choice for an elk cartridge. A 24" nosler should still outrun a 24" rem mag (all other things equal). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Minuteman. Clear winner. Indeed, over the years my 7mms have handled this stuff. Most people are getting sub half moa. Clearly Hornady wasnt trying to break any speed records with the 7 PRC. Mag. 7RM!! I didnt have any problems finding reloading supplies. Hey guys, so Ive kind of decided to give one of these a try in my Desert Tech SRS. haha The good part is it's kinda hard to go wrong these days being there are so many great choices. Should be 7.5lbs scoped or so. I think the 7saum is here to stay. Trustpilot. Still, recoil is lower and ammo/components are cheaper and easier to find. I suspect the Sherman cases are all running between 70-80k psi on the upper end. I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . And at sensible hunting distances even a basic MPBR hunter should have find more than 90 percent of his shooting opportunities covered by the Rem Mag. Great case design, great bc bullets available, more efficient powder burn than most 7mm cartridges, low recoil, and very very accurate. Im using Winchester brass, and it's showing no signs of wear after 8 or 9 reloads. needed another shot behind the head to kill it. The 7mm PRC in center is the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag and achieves the same muzzle velocities, but does so in a fatter case with no belt. ELD-Match zeroed for MPBR on a 6-inch target zone. His bolt-action rifle was chambered for the confusing .275 Rigby. How bout building a 280AI. So Im going through this same thing Are you wanting to run a shorter barrel? The Hodgdon technicians used Winchester cases and primers to develop their loads, and they were chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. At SAAMI specs you really hinder the performance, need a little extra freebore to seat the bullets out further. It is intended for long-range shooting due to its ability to utilize high BC bullets, and is also uniquely suited for hunting large animals such as elk. Mag., 7mm RUM, 28 Nosler,) you dont need a 7 PRC. It's an extraordinary caliber that has proven itself for decades upon decades, and just in the last few years has hit new strides thanks to the SAAMI standardization of the caliber, because of it's time-tested popularity. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Varme Hansker for Sykling, Lping og Kjring, Stor kapasitet skulderveskeKjp 2, -10%, 18-i-1 snfnuggformet multiverkty i rustfritt stl, Bilkropp plastnagler festing (150 stk)Kjp 2, -10%. It had impressed its power upon our troops in Cuba under fire from Spanish Mausers in 1898. Wyoming NR Special increase headed for the Gov's signature, Nutrition/Running/Strength Training/Other Workouts, FORLOH AllClima Softshell and AllClima Stretch Woven Pant Review. You are using an out of date browser. Going super light though might make the 280 ai another good choice. With RL26 I stuck a case in the chamber @ 3150fps. I have both the 300 and 7mm SAUM, the 300 is on a model 7 action and the 7mm a standard 700SA. Mag. Dies, brass etc are way easier to find for the PRC. Trustpilot. The most common comparison is 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag, because they're both popular in North America and are kissing cousins as far as bullet diameter goes. But, were I young and tough and starting from scratch, I might be lured into the .28 Nosler. Following since I want to do the exact same thing. 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