The new models mainspring is a departure, but not a huge one. Yes. Customization * * * * * The Python is back! The gun still dry fires in DA and SA. Of course, I was wishing I had a rifle. Even the stoutest 158 gr loads are tamed by the Python. I was already shooting one of the guns, and talked with other folks who were shooting them as well. They are not vents. The full under-lug, combined with those rib vents complete a certain stout elegance. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. boar with a Glock 17. The Keefe Report: Colt Addresses Python Problems. I was going to buy another AR but the Colt seems more appropriate. Former gun slinger, current gun writer. Every other round fell either on or between those two extremes. Basically, if it goes bang, thumbs-up. I own both the old and the new Python. Love my New Python. Of course, the cost of a blued Python would be considerably more. (TTAG isnt at the top of many major manufacturers Christmas card lists.) Never had an issue. That ended up as a bonus to you, the reader. pweserge, Im speaking practically. Fantastic handling dynamics. Nah. Trigger is smooth as glass. Sure beats some of the plastic guns and ARs which are that price or more. The front sights on all of the current Pythons are a complete break from the original pinned styles, and include the same interchangeable front sight setup as the Cobra series. I not seen anyone address whether the new model has a tapered bore. Advertisement Initially, only a blued finish was offered, but, befitting the gun, it wasn't just any blued finish. Getting to handle those old beauties would be cool. Have you looked into what could be causing it? I much prefer a .44 or .45 caliber. Thats nice when you are cocking the gun for single action fire, but especially nice if you need to carefully lower the hammer on a loaded chamber without firing the gun. Theres no doubt the new trigger is better in every way. At this time, Brownells is, once again, sold out of the replacement sights, and I cant find them on Colts website or Midway USA either. Good call Colt, good call. The single-action pull of the old Pythons and the OP was 3 poundsclean, crisp and perfect for those wanting to shoot bullseye (which was pretty much the only competition to be found back in 1955, the first year of Python production). Ive only had it to the range once. The end-shake still measures exactly the same. Unfortunately, there was an almost four month gap between when I got to shoot the 6 gun and the shorter barreled model. Putting the Python up against any other brand next with your eyes closed? 5 1/2 barrel. I understand that there was some criticism of the frame in the early models. I tested both a 6 and a 4.25 trigger. Try to keep up with the conversation. You asked about holsters; both Galco and DeSantis have holsters for the Python. And if the Python performs as well as it appeared to during my short time with it, that backlog will probably increase. Colt designed the new Python to be a strong gun, capable of shooting numerous full-magnum rounds over the course of its life. Oh, and the Official Police? Width: 1.55 in. In any barrel length, the tastefully done marks and the finish makes the Python stand out. Not my thing or budget but fwiw American Rifleman gave it a good review too. Its so good that they had function problems with the shootable examples at Shot Show Media Day,cylinders failed to advance . By Bob Campbell Published on February 12, 2020 in Firearms Recently, a friend remarked that the new Colt Python, at $1,399 MSRP, could not be as good as the older Pythons. For my 6"-barrelled Python, the overall length is 11.5." As of this writing, Colt says they have produced about 5,000 Pythons and they are split about evenly in barrel lengths. Its a pain in the neck, but it can be done. Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) is an infectious disease caused by a newly discovered coronavirus. Spent two hours on hold with Colt before I got a living person on the line and they promised an RMA that never came. The downside of blueing stainless is that you have to fiddle with it. Mark A. Keefe, IV, Editorial Director. Very thorough, and I suspect, took some time. Slimmed down Cobra with a 4 barrel, fixed trench style rear, thin G10 grips and a 2/3 underlug, much like the originals. Wow. Should it be there on a top shelf gun? The Colt Python was first introduced in 1955; models dated from 1955 through 1963 were handmade and featured either a Royal Blue or Bright Nickel finish. Colt last week issued an update to clarify some reported questions with their rebooted Python series of .357 Magnum revolvers. Same comment for 1903s and A3s. And this Python just might be the one gun I need to add to the herd. Me, Id be far more interested in the 8 barreled version like the one introduced in 1980. I like it well enough that once all this beer virus crap settles down Im going to start looking for a lever gun in .357. Including inflation (and depending +/- on the decade), the price today is comparable to the Python of yesteryear. But those were the .357 Magnum loads and they printed, on average, 1.2 groups. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. In a practical move by Colt, the seemingly odd short-barreled length was set to match Canadian regulations. When you say surface, do you mean the finish, or the material, or the physical structure of it? I still have photos from the first gun and all the correspondence from throughout the ordeal. Three-hundred and seventeen I-frame Pythons were shipped during the first six months at a retail price of $125. To be fair, metallic cartridge revolvers predate practical semi-autos by almost half a century. Different processes of collecting trichomes and applying pressure have been used for thousands of years, however, we are only now refining these processes into pure, clean dabbable products. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumont%E2%80%93Adams_revolver. And no, the Cobra and Kimg Cobra are not that gun. I am dissatisfied customer, as much as how Colts customer service treated me as anything else. Add to Wish List. But it is the finest Colt revolver made. , Good idea. The only Colt I ever owned was a SAA. If you dont own revolvers you have a serious hole in your handgun battery. Great looking revolver! This is because they werent actually allowing the trigger to return fully forward. If theyre still being produced later, with no issues and they can be bought for retail or under, Ill consider one. Frame Material: Stainless Steel To my delight, the store told me they usually take 10% off the MSRP but they were having a Christmas sale for an additional 10%. Happy out of the army to me! And the focus is always on the problem but never the resolution, or the manufacturers response. Ill pester and pine away for a blued model, but Im overjoyed this new stainless snake gun turned out to be everything I hoped it would. When push comes to shove though, Ive never been a big fan of the .357 either. Barely fired. You have to know how to shoot the Colt and it isnt for everyone. use the Glock. Victim blame all you want (like they didnt release the trigger all the way in this review), this release is a mess and the problems were (are?) Great review. Look at simply rugged, frontier gunleather and Purdy gear . That concerned me because, if it was an old model Cobra, that would be the maximum end-shake we want to see from the factory. Outstanding value. I tested the new Python next to the original Python. And thats the way the conversation went when a buddy of mine told me that Colt would soon be offering a new Python. That said nice to see Colt trying to act like theyre somebody and produce some nice iron. I love it. For those that learn the action this is a great revolver, perhaps the greatest Colt ever. New Smith & Wesson revolvers at the time cost considerably less. They just needed to be put on right in the first place. Its simply too bloody expensive for what you get. Proved to be very accurate, and fun to shootuntil it wasnt. Carried S&W N and K frames for many years as a Peace Officer, but always kinda wanted a Python. But they will be more affordable as time goes. In fact, even after 500 rounds in one session through a revolver, I was surprised the rounds had been expended so fast. I was also considering a high polish prior to nickle boron and then B coverage. Is their a reason why Colt cant put the same surface on the new hammers that the original Pythons had? Like from an 80s movie (or Stranger Things) where the trusty, crusty Sheriff ventures into the dark woods with his smokewagon in hand. I have fond memories of my youth shooting several Pythons. They would continue to make the 6 Python, in some number, all the way to 2006. This is not the hand-fitted gun of the original models, and do I hope everyone can appreciate the level of work that goes into something like that. Yes, the Colt action is powered by a V spring that returns the trigger and the Smith and Wesson features a trigger return spring. Pythons have always included a wide, deeply serrated hammer spur as standard. But the ability to interchange the front sights, as well as backwards compatibility with the old Python grips gives this revolver a leg up on the competition. Ive never calibrated one of those before. Im tempted by this new one, but its still pretty pricy. The Python has never been an inexpensive weapon. It just feels like the trigger wants to be pulled, like the gun wants to be shot. Some of the time, I have to take a propane torch to parts to get them to come apart (eg, red Loctite). Beautifully finished, great trigger, accurateand broken. Now Colt, make more of them. I asked Colt why stainless, and not blue? Not much risk there. Do you have one to recommend or a particular bullet you like? I dearly hope we see a blued Python, and Id fight a big man or a small old lady to be first in line for one, but I dont think we will see them in significant numbers anytime soon. I prefer a S&W .44 magnum. Got my 686 as an OSP color guard trade in. If it requires refinishing, it may take longer. I bet I thumbed back a Python hammer 20,000 times, easy, and let it down on a live round hundreds of times as well, it was definitely a non-problem, why was it fixed? How deep have we fallen?! Without the trigger holding the transfer bar up behind the firing pin there is no way for the hammer to contact the transfer bar or firing pin. Have at it, which reminds me of the adage That is why they make Chevys and Fords,everyone can have what they want. Much like the first edition of the Python, this revolver has a captivating appearance. Same again for Winchesters and Remingtons of old. Veteran, army medic, proud Texas son. Colt and CT that tax-loving state full of angry liberals (excuse the redundancy) can KMA. (That's $1,134 in today's . Shipping cost is $45 and includes shipping insurance to the CONTINENTAL US. The Colt Python has retained its popularity even after remaining out of production for decades. A very nice customer service person told me where my nearest Colt dealer was and said he could have one shipped there for me. The vents do look pretty cool. Only one 4. Consistent placement on target was a breeze. Excellent quality, great 178 grain bullet. Screw or pin replacable front sight. But in no way am I saying I dislike Colts, I just couldnt afford both. Good story, but I still have the 4 Python I bought NIB in 1973, works good, lasts a long time. After approximately 150 rounds of CCI/Blazer brass case .38 SPL ammo, the cylinder locked up after the first round of a cylinder-load was fired, wouldnt unlock unless I released the cylinder and swung it open. And, the DA trigger pull went from 9Lb 8oz to 10lb 8oz, the SA went from5lb8oz to 6lb 10oz.. After a few heated conversations on what I should be happy with and the local gun shop owner going to bat for me, Colt said they would replace the gun. In 1980 I saw a sidebar ad in one of the gun mags with a photo of the newly available 8 barrel. Very proper. The screws measured between 9 and 10 inch-pounds of torque required to loosen the plates. If I have this reaction, Im sure Mr. Bad guy has it triple. Oh and a competitor to the S&W M&P R8, including optic and WML rails (Ruger needs to get on that one too). Well, the truth is, some stainless steels can be blued. Although I find the 4.25 more practical, theres no denying the perfect balance and fast shooting of the 6 version. Accuracy. Nothing jarred loose. Until then Ill run my 686+ and Ruger Match Champion. Strike one. Silky smooth trigger. The new rear sight is tucked into the gun with the familiar long leaf, terminating with a top screw changing elevation, and the tiny side screw altering the windage via a thin black blade. Both say they fit the Python and SW 686 as well. The reply was that stainless steel guns are what people will shoot. try desantis holster hybrid. When comparing the stainless guns fit and finish, they too, are just as good as anything we saw from Colt in the past. When I ETSed in 83 I bought a 6 stainless Python. I said double action revolvers. The same feeler gauge that measured .003 wouldnt quite fit in the new Python. Mostly we shoot .38 Spl and .357M, because thats what the wife and I happen to reload most (she prefers .38 Spl for its ease of shooting). I am cautiously optimistic about the future of Colt. . Feeding issues plague Semi-Autos due to magazine issues, ammo differences, and wear items. The main thing here is that Colt is back in the DA wheelgun game. 1 selling revolver among FFLs using the services of GunBroker.com in 2020. I dont have a heavy bullet mold for the 357. After closing, it would again fire the first round, and lock up again. The Pythons adjustable rear sight is very similar to the original. I got on the order train as fast as I could, asking for both a 6 and 4.25 gun from my distributor. Im betting weve all been there. I'm very disheartened about this. This was going to be my first revolver. There are several guns Id love to see Colt bring back: Colt Woodsman target .22 semi-auto. Colt notes that the rear of the top strap has more steel there than the originals, leading to a stronger revolver. Thanks for the review. The blueing of stainless often requires you hit a narrow temperature range, sometimes you need to run the salt bath temp up and down through the range to get the blueing to start, then you need to sometimes agitate the salts a bit to keep them blueing the stainless, etc, etc. She remembers that 50+ years later, the second one is for her. I contacted Colt and asked for an explanation of these failures. Great review Jon. Colt has been providing quality firearms for the US Military since Samuel Colt's first US Patent in 1836. It was also chambered in .357 Magnum. Yeah, done it. The new Python opts for a similar but different style rounded wire V shaped mainspring. $ 1,399.00. Colt said that they had started using thread locker as well as tested to see if the side plates would come loose during firing. This round produced consistent five-round groups of just under 1. Fend of a 10 pack of starving Wuhan flu zombies ? YouTube has indeed changed our world . The new Python is a better gun. Different Colt catalogs throughout the decades described them as there to reduce weight or to dissipate heat. These are some of the most highly-prized guns for collectors. Very through. When it comes to precision, the new Python easily lives up to the reputation of the original models. Click here to view our other Live Auctions! There is, IMHO, an intimidation factor involved with large frame revolvers. During all of that shooting 1,700+ rounds I found no issues at all with any of the guns. I shot the heck out of one 6 gun, but my friend also allowed me to photograph and measure several other new Pythons that came in. Double action. Some were of significant value. Not saying theyll be inexpensive; the Python is definitely a premium wheelgun. The Python. But it seems a lot like there are more people claiming that their Colt is bad than the number of guns that Colt actually sold. In this case Colt stepped up and made it right. I tested the end-shake with three different new Pythons and compared them to several old Pythons, including an unfired 4 gun. The gross tooling marks present under the top strap of my King Cobra did nothing to alleviate my concerns. If the trend with the new generation of Pythons follows like the originals, the next barrel length should be 2 1/2. This releases the front sight, which can then be replaced with a different front sight. Both guns were (and are) lasers and were an absolute joy to shoot. But it takes much more time (in my limited experience) than blueing steel. Protect yourself and others from infection by washing your hands or using an alcohol based rub frequently and not touching your face. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Style and Appearance * * * * * Although the 6 model was also described as a service weapon from the earliest catalogs, the 4 model would be described in advertisements as the Police Python when it was released in 1961. Not sure if Ill keep it when it returns from Colt, as Im concerned about reliability. Ill let that sink in for a moment. At no point during any of the shooting did I feel like I was slogging through rounds to check off boxes. Never liked Colts trigger action or grip design as much as Smith & Wesson. Please keep us informed like this. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Freaking EXCELLENT question. Great gun I never should have sold. Thank you. Go back far enough and you can find damn near anything to support your argument. There are no clicks to the movement, a continuous turn yields continuous movement of the sight blade. The Colt Officer Target pistols, especially in .22 and .32. In a practical move by Colt, the seemingly odd short-barreled length was set to match Canadian. Blue or brushed stainless. I never had any trigger hang-ups. Then I taught her to shoot a 4 Python with hot .357 loads around 1968, and she could not miss. It hardly moves at all. You know, before the turn of the last century. I own many guns now, but the Python is the centerpiece of my handgun collection. The eye picks it up easily, and combined with the rear sight, its effective at making both quick and precise shots. Older people, and those with underlying medical problems like cardiovascular disease, diabetes, chronic respiratory disease, and cancer are more likely to develop serious illness. If you cant trust the US treasure check these days, whom can you trust? are now, but distinctly more expensive than the S&W 686 or Ruger GP100 with which it competes as a "shooter" as opposed to a collector piece. 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