50-250 USD How do you clean a asm black powder 44 made in Italy? He is no longer with us, and I have no plans to ever shoot it. The fact they are consecutive numbers may add a little value. Eig imported inexpensive handguns, cutlery and other items. The owner was very knowledgeable about his business. Traditions WILDCARD .36 CALIBER BLACK POWDER REVOLVER G18514 $461.00 $378.00 On Sale On Sale 1851 Navy Engraved .44 Cal Nickel Black Powder Revolver . Unfortunately, ASM also changed their name to Chaparral about the same time. He examined the gun and proclaimed it one of the good ones and made me a really good offer that I applied to a like new in box NMV. A few years ago the trigger just wore out. Denster estimated about $450.00 for the pair. Serial Number: D43475. If any part of these Conditions of Sale is found by any court to be invalid, illegal or unenforceable, that part shall be discounted and the rest of the conditions shall continue to be valid to the fullest extent permitted by law. Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Flintlock Misc, Antique (Pre-1899) Rifles - Matchlock/Wheellock Misc, Century Arms International (CAI) - Rifles, Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Rifles (perc), Winchester Rifles - Modern Bolt/Auto/Single, Winchester Rifles - Pre-1899 Bolt/Single Shot, Century Arms International (CAI) - Pistols, Colt Automatic Pistols (.25, .32, & .380 cal), Colt Single Action Revolvers - Modern (22 Cal. There's a "For sale" section at the top of the black powder forum (here). Not responsible for accidents or items after sold. Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. Note: This item is previewed & picked up at Butler County Auction 704 Main, Towanda, KS . 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So based upon my experience, ASM is a solid hit or a wide miss. They thought if they started raising the price on their guns to in the, same range as Uberti that all the problems would go away. Execution of written bids is a free service undertaken subject to other commitments at the time of the sale and we do not accept liability for failing to execute a written bid or for errors and omissions in connection with the written bid. Failure to Collect Purchases Guns black powder only, Cal 44, made in Italy." 4030, 44 jewels, signed Dial :Black dial with three subsidiary dials for constant seconds, 30-minute and 12-hour registers, signed. We will never share, sell, or rent individual personal information with anyone without your advance permission or unless ordered by a court of law. WOW , thanks for the history , I do see parts ,lighter springs even cylinders for these guns BUT not with the ASM manufacture ,parts are crossed to gun type like "1851 navy" ,would one say theres a strong chance they would work in ASM brand "1851 navy" ? The 2nd ASM is a Colt SAA clone, the EMF "Hartford" model. Pistol - Made in Italy . What is the asm black powder pistol 44 cal worth? ), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (flint), Muzzleloading Modern & Replica Pistols (perc), United States Patent Firearms Revolvers/Pistols, Century Arms International (CAI) - Shotguns. Allen then started Western Arms which became Allen Arms, and then to Cimarron. Armi San Marco. Sounds like 44cal versions of the 1851 Navy but without a picture it's hard to tell. on May 08, 2021. Didn't Colt threaten to sue ASM because of they're use of a "pony" on the grip? See Sold Price. Contact Fingers McGee or Driftwood Johnson. Directory Price Results News Help Consign How Auctions Work. I do remember an article about this first revolver in that it was so exactly copied from an original that even experienced Colt collectors had difficulty in telling the prototype from an original. is for Armi San Marco, an italian factory making black All information is provided "as is" with all faults without warranty of any kind, either express or implied. ASM Colt 1851 Navy .44 Cal Black Powder Revolver. Colt Lightning Medium Frame 44/40 Pump Rifle. Any clues as to if it is a Uberti or not would be appreciated. I don't know whatever happened to that lawsuit or maybe it was just a rumor? But, since he doesn't shoot "cowboy" any more it's part of my backup pair to my main Colt guns). ASM 1860 Armies with color case hardened steel frames are worth between $100 and $250 depending on condition. 44 Made in Italy"Underneath the loading lever is the serial number "E51471"Above the wedge slot ""US" and ". Product Description 44 Caliber; 99% blue, excellent bore, excellent grips, 9'' barrel, Reproduction black powder percussion revolver manufactured in Italy. blue book publications as well as many of the other hunting and CONNECTICUT VALLEY ARMS .32 CAL BLACK POWDER PERCUSSION MUSKET. *Caliber, Barrel Length, Generations, Sub Models may all affect item price. I think the ASMs from around that time were pretty good guns. I live in Texas near Houston. Made in Italy, In the case of a tie bid, precedence is given to the earliest bid. They moved the factory from where all the other factories are to a more remote area and some of the workers didn't want to leave their home so they lost a lot of expertise. .31 Cal Single Shot Brass Italian Derringer - 9603418 On the cylinder is PATENT N.All help is appreciated. Earlier ASMs (before 1990) are higher quality than later ones. Title passes upon the fall of the auctioneer's hammer to the highest acknowledged bidder subject to the Conditions of Sale set forth herein, and the bidder assumes full risk and responsibility. The buyer's premium for purchases made via online bidding is fifteen point four percent(15.4%) of the hammer. Online Bids F. LLI Pietta is an Italian company that made reproduction black powder pistols..everything from a Colt 1851 Navy to a model 1858 Remington. But it's action Oh, it's action REALLY stank. All items must be removed by January 2nd 2pm after the sale unless other arrangements are made. BEFORE THE SALE . I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. ASM are not the best in the world they've had problems with soft internals. LENGTH 40". A fine 18K 'Everose' gold automatic chronograph wristwatch Model: Cosmograph Daytona Reference: 116515LN Date: Circa 2015 Movement: 44-jewel Cal.4130 automatic, adjusted to 5 positions & temper, Rolex. Italian date code, "BC" is stamped on the underside of the frame. Navy Arms .36 Cal Cap and Ball Black Powder Revolver. A teacher walks into the Classroom and says If only Yesterday was Tomorrow Today would have been a Saturday Which Day did the Teacher make this Statement? Up for sale is an ASM black powder only revolver 44 cal made in Italy. REPRODUCTION HMS VICTORY BLACK-POWDER CANNON: Mounted on a newer base with metal wheels, the barrel is marked Made in Argentina, barrel measures 20.5" in length, WEIGHT, as is condition. In really good shape they are worth about $125 each if steel frame if brass frame about $80 each. In addition, a defaulting purchaser will be deemed to have granted us a security interest in, and we may retain as collateral security for such purchaser's obligations to us, any property in our possession owned by such purchaser. PART #: CAPACITY: BARREL LENGTH: EIG Italian Colt 1851 Navy Black Powder Revolver 36 cal w/Leather Holster . Don't let your buddies use your account. I am trying to figure out how to upload photos. I was told a few years back that the other gun makers in Italy approached them and requested that they work harder on the craftsmanship as they were giving the Italian gun makers a bad name. Questions encouraged. Pietta Model 1851 Navy .44 Cal Unbox | Cabelas Black Powder Revolver Fix It Now 59.9K subscribers Subscribe 90K views 9 years ago Here is an un-boxing of the popular Pietta 1851 .44 Cal. Parts Only . Pietta, Steel Frame 4-7/8" Sheriff G18513 $279.00 $279.00 . Case: 44 mm, three body, steel screw back, steel rotating bezel, screw do. Black Powder .44 Cal. Construction is blued steel barrel assembly, trigger, hammer and cylinder, with two piece brass grip frame and main frame. The underside of the barrel is marked "CAL 44 / ASM BLACK POWDER ONLY MADE IN ITALY". Didn't happen though. #44 Black Powder CVA 45 Caliber Kentucky Rifle Steel Nose Cap Screws (Unused) $4.41. Measures approximately 22" in length and wheels are approximately 12" in diameter. Then, I took it to a gunhack who buggered the threads. Condition: Used, As New Caliber: .44 (other/Cap & Ball) Item #: 917581988 Location: IL Black Powder Serial #: E08571 Finish: Blue / Brass Frame Barrel Length: 8" Markings: "ASM BLACK POWDER ONLY CAL. Auction Preview: December 21st-26th 9am-5pm and December 28th-30th 9-5pm If payment is declined, payment must be made the next day in U.S. dollars may be made with cash; credit card (Mastercard, Visa, Discover, American Express); bank check or cashier's check drawn on a U.S. bank; money order; or wire transfer unless other arrangements are made with Kraft Auction Service LLC. We may require bank or other financial references. That will give you an idea of the general value. WE DO NOT REFUND BUYERS FOR ITEMS BECAUSE SHIPPING WAS TO EXPENSIVE. Made in Italy | Kraft Auction Service Login / New Bidder Current Auctions Past Auctions Email List Feedback / Question Back to Catalog has received all funds due to us, the buyer shall collect purchased lots on the posted pick-up days from the auction. Changes were made in the production guns to make sure they could not be passed off as an original. It has no mfg markings I can find. ASM was so bad, even ASM parts seldom fit. Parts are still available on a limited basis from VTI. 7906, black dial, applied baton markers, baton hand, 54"x 44"h Black and white Framed Sheep Pastel/Charcoal. Provenance: Topsfield, Massachusetts. or Pietta guns, but still a very fine reproduction. We will use reasonable efforts to carry out written bids given to us at least 24 hours prior to the sale for the convenience of clients who are not present at the auction in person, by an agent or by telephone. black powder pistol | 205 | 50 | Lc | 156.2135ms. This was my father in laws gun and I think he fired six rounds through it. Advanced . Open: Tues - Sat I've been told these ASM revolvers' parts interchange with Colt 1st generation. It wears Pietta gripframe screws, too. Nice vintage Spain 58 cal. with the words "Engaged 16 May 1843". Appears unfired, excellent condition. They were based primarily on the early 1st. Not Richards Mason, but Richards like Tom Selleck had in "Sabre River". 10% buyers premium. But, Armi Sport is still in business (under a new name). List them and see what happens. It is a Navy Arms from at least twenty years ago. Posts: 4,740. The Armi San Marco brand is not as highly valued as the Uberti Traditions Firearms 1851 Colt Navy 44 Cal Black Powder Pistol $281.99 Add to Compare (11) Traditions Firearms 1851 Navy Revolver Walnut Grip 44 Cal Black Powder Pistol $289.99 Add to Compare (5) Traditions 1860 Army 44 BP 8" Hammer/Blade Walnut Grip Blued $304.99 Free Shipping Option* Add to Compare (6) The credit card on file will be run immediately after the sale is concluded. Condition Reports ASM black powder only Made in Italy side of barrel. This one came in a non-Colt box (which I still have) and has no Colt paperwork. I do have to give credit to ASM for the fact that most of their reproductions were historically correct. CVA ASM 1850 1858 1860 black powder 44 cal cylinder base pin bar frame brass. How would I go about selling them? The second, also instituted in 1950, is the first black powder proof for Gardone and Brescia, and is only used on black powder arms. By bidding at auction you agree to be bound by these Conditions of Sale. I was told by the Chiappa folks, they changed the Armi Sport name to Chiappa because of this confusion. i have a 44 caliber black powder only pistol, made in Italy, looks old, serial number 203246. . Some lots in the sale are subject to a reserve which is the confidential minimum price below which such lot will not be sold. Their SAA's are a good example. Auction Terms & Conditions Conditions of Sale Free shipping for many products! CALIBER AND REVOLVER TYPE.31 caliber Colt and Remington.36 caliber Colt.44 caliber Colt and Remington.44 caliber Colt Walker and 3rd . N. 8CA371851NA44" All the original paperwork is from E.M.F. (No, I didn't win it my son beat me in the shoot-off. Description: A.S.M. . I used to also have an 1858 Remington clone by ASM. MOWREY 58 CAL BLACK POWDER PERCUSSION MUSKET, #2480. very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Pietta 1851 Navy .44 caliber black powder 6 shot revolver. 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